In this podcast episode, Katie Anderson and Gerald Harris discuss the concept of serious leadership in healthcare, emphasizing the importance of long-term thinking and a deep commitment to patient-centered care. Katie shares insights from her experiences, including lessons from Japanese leadership practices, highlighting how leaders can break the habit of simply telling their teams what to do and instead engage them in collaborative problem-solving. Gerald underscores the challenges healthcare leaders face, such as time constraints and regulatory pressures, and the need to manage these complexities to create conditions for success. The episode also promotes the upcoming 2024 Lean Solutions Summit, where both Katie and Gerald will be actively participating, offering healthcare leaders an opportunity to reflect, learn, and gain new perspectives to enhance their leadership practices.